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Revision as of 11:15, 4 January 2005

What's this page for?

BSD-related links in general?

I wouldn't mind some BSD wallpapers.

I would appreciate some information in the commands section on process and file locking: locating/tracking down locked files and processes. I would also appreciate some extra info on what commands to use to unlock resources that remain locked after a program abnormally terminates.

-- Joe B. --

Can you give me a little more background info on this? I've never had any trouble with file or process locking; particularly given that, at least if you're root, there IS no such thing. Actually I'm unaware of per-user file locking on a non-superuser level either - which isn't to say that it doesn't EXIST, but I see an AWFUL lot of programs implementing their own flock system with special files to indicate locking on data files. Which tends to reinforce my (possibly naive) idea that if you want locking, you have to implement it for yourself..

So, yeah, can you give us more info about what you're having trouble with exactly?

--Jimbo 21:43, 17 Nov 2004 (EST)

Sounds like it's being init'd by root (or a user with root privs) at boot time and doesn't want to give it up. if you've used lsof to see what's open, kill -HUP or kill -9 it.

-dave

you can use lsof to see what files are open....

--Dave

I have installed Hylafax and tried to set it up. For some reason, the installation was interrupted and I keep getting the message that the modem [/dev/cuaa4], is 'locked', so no faxes can be sent. I can still dial the modem with a program like Seyon or Minicom. I've tried to hunt down the lockfiles used by the program, in case any of them are misbehaving, but with no luck and, besides, I'm still unsure how to unlock a locked socket or file if I find one. I'm running FreeBSD 5.1. The lockup continues even after a hard reboot and reinstall.

-- Joe B. --

Hrm. I'm unfamiliar with Hylafax, and to be honest my experience with modems under BSD is also nonexistent - I haven't used dialup under *nix since I got PPP set up under SuSE with my very first experiments with running my own *nix box about six years ago. What user context is your app running under? It's possible that you might have to do something special to delegate some privileges if you want it to run in a non-root context, sort of like mounting or dismounting CDs or floppies.

--Jimbo 16:08, 2 Dec 2004 (EST)

Hylafax has configuration files for its demons. They are similar to other allow/deny files, like, say, lpd's. All of those have been set up properly, as far as I can tell.

-- Joe B. --

check permissions on the daemons and the files they're supposed ot be accessing -- including devices. could be they don't have rights to do what they're supposed to and therefore fucking up.

Dave

Can we have a page for problem ports like java and eventually the walkthru for people who just left windoze, as well as a place to put a small page to present user?

Relax

not a bad idea -- i don't understand what you mean by "a small page to present user" since users of the wiki do have their own pages...click on jimbo's name (or Dave) for an example.

dave

Cool - but where is the page that points at the users?

Relax

Special:Listusers

btw, see the little icon at the top of the edit area that looks sorta like a signature, in between the red "nowiki" icon and the solid line icon? That's the signature icon, handy for Talk pages like this one, because it does this for you:

--Jimbo 13:03, 24 Dec 2004 (EST)

Should we post a story to slashdot so we can get more users?

relax

Fine by me. Hell, I'm advertising the thing on Google's adsense, what's wrong with free publicity? =) --Jimbo 01:19, 4 Jan 2005 (EST)

My story of a FreeBSD wiki was rejected. I may be good with technical writing but not with marketing or story telling...

Someone else can give it a try? There are many slashdot editors so there is bound to be one that is thrilled by the idea of a BSD wiki!

We might want to provide one grandma-usable drolling-idiot-proof script that installs java on a browser or other feats unheard of in freeBSD newbie circles. It would prove technical competence, and provide a story because sun would stubornly insist on clicking on one of their agreements but made the whole install very obnoxious to most users precisely because they wanted users to see the license agreement. Such behavior isn't very open source minded.

Anyhow that's what I based my slashdot story attempt on (the obnoxious license preventing a simple "make install" from being used and the wiki as last hope of the FreeBSD newbie), but I'm sure someone else would word it better than me.

And THAT would be free publicity on a few sites, slashdot or no slashdot. (-;

P.S.: and we could all add a FreeBSD wiki link to every slashdot discussion about any form of wiki. Don't spam, just make sure you make a meaningful contribution to the discussion (i.e. be a karma whore and quote wikipedia first or make some kind of self-interview of your wiki experience. Pointing out which wiki codes are superior at what also helps).

relax ---