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80.176.234.32 at 08:33, 30 March 2006

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80.176.234.32 at 08:33, 30 March 2006

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80.176.234.32 at 08:32, 30 March 2006

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80.176.234.32 at 08:32, 30 March 2006

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Jimbo at 04:30, 30 March 2006

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Dave: doesn't make any sense to me

2006-03-29T21:57:46Z

doesn't make any sense to me

Dave at 21:55, 29 March 2006

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ColdFire at 20:45, 29 March 2006

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Jimbo at 16:31, 29 March 2006

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	==Finally==		==Finally==
−	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh? --[[User:ColdFire]]	+	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh? --[[User:ColdFire\|coldFire]]

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	==Finally==		==Finally==
−	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh? --[[ColdFire]]	+	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh? --[[User:ColdFire]]

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	==Finally==		==Finally==
−	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh?	+	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh? --[[ColdFire]]

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	Your input is more than welcome here, but can you please not make everything a fight? We're all friends here. =) --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 23:30, 29 March 2006 (EST)		Your input is more than welcome here, but can you please not make everything a fight? We're all friends here. =) --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 23:30, 29 March 2006 (EST)
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		+	==Finally==
		+	I didn't come here for a fight, I stumbled apon and thought I'd make a contribution... and to find my article had been re written to ports.. just found it a bit weird. Never mind eh?

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	==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)		==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)

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	seeing as how ports is the exact same thing as installing from source that you download manually yourself, but i've re-added the relevant sections of your article. I've also edited this page for better scanning (seeing as how people will read it top-down). --[[User:Dave\|Dave]] 16:57, 29 March 2006 (EST)		seeing as how ports is the exact same thing as installing from source that you download manually yourself, but i've re-added the relevant sections of your article. I've also edited this page for better scanning (seeing as how people will read it top-down). --[[User:Dave\|Dave]] 16:57, 29 March 2006 (EST)
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		+	== This is not a war zone, please put your gun away ==
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		+	Seriously man, I already said (and meant) that I appreciated your article, and that I'd like to see more stuff about building from tarballs. I am VERY source-centric, personally - I just also (personally) dearly love using the ports tree for those apps that are in the ports tree, because it makes building (from source) much easier and much cleaner and more administerable, particularly on complex servers.
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		+	I don't know what all this business about "not being able to rub tarballs away" is, or source junkies versus... non-source junkies? Again, I am a "source junkie" myself. I never use packages on production servers, only ports... which. Y'know. Consist of tarballs. They're just pre-patched up and handled for you to make things easier and more controllable for administration later on.
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		+	Anyway seriously, there's no conspiracy here. I like source, and in fact pretty much mandate it on my own boxes. Dave likes source too, although he's much less of a zealot about it than I am. And I really meant what I said about liking to see some articles about going raw-dog from tarballs, if for no other reason than that I wind up needing to do that on Linux machines pretty frequently to (for example) bypass godawful RedHat type package clusterfuckery where nothing can be made to work with the native pre-compiled binary distributions due to one incompatiblity or another.
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		+	Your input is more than welcome here, but can you please not make everything a fight? We're all friends here. =) --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 23:30, 29 March 2006 (EST)

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	So... Want me to remove my invalid page? Or will it be reinstated to a "from source" guide?		So... Want me to remove my invalid page? Or will it be reinstated to a "from source" guide?
	--[[User:ColdFire\|ColdFire]]		--[[User:ColdFire\|ColdFire]]
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		+	== doesn't make any sense to me ==
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		+	seeing as how ports is the exact same thing as installing from source that you download manually yourself, but i've re-added the relevant sections of your article. I've also edited this page for better scanning (seeing as how people will read it top-down). --[[User:Dave\|Dave]] 16:57, 29 March 2006 (EST)

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−	~~==Understood, but...==~~
−	Read this page, and your arguements are valid, but there isn't a banner saying "ports only". I've been running FreeBSD (and Linux Gentoo) for about 4 years, going through versions 4, 5 and now 6. There are some things that I'd automatically use for ports: wget, lynx, perl, blah blah.. but for some programs I prefer to install myself, so I know what is being installed, where its going and how it will work.. ie --with-xx..
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−	So now you'r saying it's a good idea to write in source to offer an alternative?? "...Maybe you could write us an article specifically about building applications from tarballs..." Talk about contradict yourself!
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−	Regarding the below comment: See above. Oh and I use the crons just to simplify and group up tasks that get run, So I can see a large list of all things that get run at specified times: hourly, monthly, and at boot.
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−	~~You can't rub tarballs away, they will always exist cos there will always be source junkies around.~~
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−	~~So... Want me to remove my invalid page? Or will it be reinstated to a "from source" guide?~~

	==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)		==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)
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	--[[User:Dave\|Dave]] 11:25, 29 March 2006 (EST)		--[[User:Dave\|Dave]] 11:25, 29 March 2006 (EST)
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		+	==Understood, but...==
		+	Read this page, and your arguements are valid, but there isn't a banner saying "ports only". I've been running FreeBSD (and Linux Gentoo) for about 4 years, going through versions 4, 5 and now 6. There are some things that I'd automatically use for ports: wget, lynx, perl, blah blah.. but for some programs I prefer to install myself, so I know what is being installed, where its going and how it will work.. ie --with-xx..
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		+	So now you'r saying it's a good idea to write in source to offer an alternative?? "...Maybe you could write us an article specifically about building applications from tarballs..." Talk about contradict yourself!
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		+	Regarding the below comment: See above. Oh and I use the crons just to simplify and group up tasks that get run, So I can see a large list of all things that get run at specified times: hourly, monthly, and at boot.
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		+	You can't rub tarballs away, they will always exist cos there will always be source junkies around.
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		+	So... Want me to remove my invalid page? Or will it be reinstated to a "from source" guide?
		+	--[[User:ColdFire\|ColdFire]]

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		+	==Understood, but...==
		+	Read this page, and your arguements are valid, but there isn't a banner saying "ports only". I've been running FreeBSD (and Linux Gentoo) for about 4 years, going through versions 4, 5 and now 6. There are some things that I'd automatically use for ports: wget, lynx, perl, blah blah.. but for some programs I prefer to install myself, so I know what is being installed, where its going and how it will work.. ie --with-xx..
		+
		+	So now you'r saying it's a good idea to write in source to offer an alternative?? "...Maybe you could write us an article specifically about building applications from tarballs..." Talk about contradict yourself!
		+
		+	Regarding the below comment: See above. Oh and I use the crons just to simplify and group up tasks that get run, So I can see a large list of all things that get run at specified times: hourly, monthly, and at boot.
		+
		+	You can't rub tarballs away, they will always exist cos there will always be source junkies around.
		+
		+	So... Want me to remove my invalid page? Or will it be reinstated to a "from source" guide?
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	==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)		==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)

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−	Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire? Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)	+	==Are you a Linux guy, ColdFire?== Just kinda curious as to why you'd compile Apache and PHP raw-dog rather than use the ports tree (and run a cron job to start it at boot time rather than use a /usr/local/etc/rc.d script). --[[User:Jimbo\|Jimbo]] 01:49, 27 March 2006 (EST)

	== not to mention ==		== not to mention ==